Redefining Realness

Janet Mock

Welcome to Emerging Women’s Grace & Fire podcast where we hear from the brilliant women leaders creating big change in the world.

I’m Chantal Pierrat, your host, and I can’t wait to dive in to this week’s conversation with the fabulous Janet Mock, author of Redefining Realness and host of the weekly culture show SoPOPular! on MSNBC.

Janet and I talk about her story as a “blueprint for life” for a young black trans person of color, how she defines courage, and what’s inherently bizarre about binary gender norms. We consider the power of “discussing things we pretend we’re too smart to like,” like trashy tv shows and celebrity gossip. And Janet just nails it down when I ask her what vision she has for those of us who are no longer willing to compromise what we know to be true on the inside in order to maintain the mask we put on for survival.

Hells yes. Let’s get to it – this week’s Grace & Fire podcast “Redefining Realness” with the brilliant and beautiful Janet Mock.

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